Disarm and trip

Dulrik · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:44 pm

-Johnix- wrote:

Second bump. Do I have to make a thread in the gameplay with a title written in capitals and start qqing and saying that the imms are re*ards to get a reply from someone who can fix it? I know it is stupid but it seems it works. There are 3-4 bugs here that screw a whole class. Please do something or at least reply. Thanks.

Are either of these bugs new? If so, do you have an idea when they started or what change caused it? If not, how do they screw the whole class?

-Johnix- · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:22 am

I really doubt they are new. I have never played a swasie before but Syn says above she had the same problems in the past. It must have been like this for ever, I just don't know if the mercs have the same problem with trip. The punch/hit thing wearing one weapon is a swash problem and obviously a bug because you punch/hit depending on your other hand being disarmed/severed respectively.

Here are all the cases:

1) No main weapon (disarmed) and wielding an off-hand -> You are considered to be wielding no weapon thus you punch and you can't disarm.

Quote:

You punch at a large white seal's chest, causing a deep gash.
A large white seal misses you.
A large white seal's slice at your chest is deflected by a flowing white robe.
Overall, a large white seal has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP:100%] [ME: 93%] [PE: 78%]
> You must wield a weapon to disarm.

2) No main weapon (main hand severed) and wielding an off-hand -> You can hit with your off-hand but not disarm with it. Just like the previous case it doesn't make sense since a swasie would use his accurate weapon to disarm.

3) No off-hand (disarmed) -> Hit with the main weapon and disarm normally

4) No off-hand (severed) -> I'm not sure about this but probably the same like 3.

5) And the trip bug:

Quote:

Group: Feanor's Party
(11:F1) [ Feanor] (12:F2) [------------] (13:F3) [------------]
(21:M1) [------------] (22:M2) [------------] (23:M3) [------------]
(31:B1) [------------] (32:B2) [------------] (33:B3) [------------]
Characters Rank Pos In room Follow HP ME PE
Feanor Leader 11:F1 Yes No 100% 97% 84%

[HP:100%] [ME: 97%] [PE: 84%]
> A snow-white destrier injures a snow hare.
Ok.

[HP:100%] [ME: 97%] [PE: 84%]
>
A snow-white destrier misses a snow hare.
A snow-white destrier misses a snow hare.
A snow-white destrier misses a snow hare.
A snow hare misses a snow-white destrier.

[HP:100%] [ME: 97%] [PE: 84%]
> Someone is in your way. <---trip from first row

While none is standing first row you can't trip if someone else starts the battle. You have to type 'kill xxx' first and then trip.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:35 am

FYI, Johnix, the thing with trip isn't swashie specific. Bards can't do it either, so I would have to say that it just can't be done in general.

While you're at it D, you should look at why disarm can't be used from second row with a reaching weapon. Or at least explain that little...jewel...if it's intentional.

-Johnix- · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:53 am

The fact that you can't disarm from second row seems like a feature to me. At least I considered it one when I had my barb. That I couldn't do all the manoeuvres I wanted with a battlespear for example while someone is in front me. You just find some space between his arms or under his legs to pierce the opponents. It will be funny if it really is a bug.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:07 am

Makes no sense that whips can't be used to disarm from second rank.

Dulrik · **Posted:** Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:51 pm

Added for next update:
Can disarm with a weapon from either hand if you know dual wield.

-Johnix- · **Posted:** Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:47 pm

Will you be able to hit with the off hand when your main is disarmed? You currently can't do that. It's the difference between case 1 and 2 above.

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